Comments on: Patty Bartlett Sessions

By: J. Stapley

J. Stapley — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:06:03 +0000

Trudy, my opinion about JS’s plural marriages are informed by a fair amount of study. But they aren’t particularly relevant to this thread on Patty Sessions. It is easy to make lurid claims, when you your aim is to denigrate.

Note that God told Joseph Smith that their “creeds” were an abomination. Many Christian churches have viewed creeds an abomination. I would reed Hatch’s Democratization of American Christianity for Second Great Awakening context on this. Your dismal of Smith’s affinity for the Methodists betrays your lack of context. Also, the comments about the forms and the power, is part of the classic debate on “formalism” of which John Wesley (father of Methodism), was part.

Let’s not pursue this on this thread. You can check out more recent posts of mine at By Common Consent.

By: Trudy

Trudy — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:14:21 +0000

Dear Mr. Stapley,
I have studied early Mormonism. I am pentecostal I suppose, or Charismatic if you will, but this did not come as post-Azusa street, it comes right from the 2nd chapter of Acts in the Bible.
What do you think about Joseph Smith being married(sealed for time and all eternity) to 34 wives, 11 of them already having husbands and 10 being teenagers, with 7 under 18?
Also this is what Smith said God told him about all other faiths: 19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.
So much for fondness of the Methodists.
looking forward to your next post, Trudy

By: J. Stapley

J. Stapley — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:48:08 +0000

I’m glad you have fun at your Pentacostal church, Trudy. Many early Mormons converted from Methodism or Methodist schismatic groups (Brigham Young, for example). Even Joseph Smith was partial to the methodists. The proscription against coffee and alcohol weren’t systematically enforced in Mormonism until the 1920s. However, if you were to study early Mormonism, I think that much of what you cherish from your post-Azusa Street revival experience was anticipated by Mormonism. Also JS’s marriage to Sessions is well documented in the sources described in the original post and comments.

By: Trudy

Trudy — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:44:05 +0000

I have fun at Church, I speak in tongues and interpret. We dance some while worshiping.There are prophecies sometimes,I am not a Mormon.
We have coffee fellowship, I don’t like beer, but sometimes have a glass of wine. Don’t be drunk with wine where in excess, but be filled with the Holy Spirit.
Patty Session was raised Methodist, maybe some of her upbringing was incorporated into her Mormonism?
Did you know she married Joseph Smith while she was still married to her own husband David?

By: Leann

Leann — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:51:50 +0000

I read some of the comments written in the past and was reminded that I had mentioned my web site and that I would share the address. Which is: christensengenealogy.mysite.com
I am still working on my site so please forgive the imperfections.

For Session and Bartlett information, go to ‘Tripp Links’ then ‘Bartlett Links’

I update the site as often as I can, so check back for more links in the future.

By: Leann

Leann — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:33:21 +0000

This information about Patty Bartlett and John Perry is on a web site called Western Maine Saints.
Maybe it will help with some of your questions.

In December 1851, Patty married again, and wrote in her diary that she was thankful to have a man to cut firewood for her. John Parry had come to the valley of the Great Salt Lake with a group of eighty-five Welsh converts in the 1849 emigration with the George A. Smith Company. John

By: g hatch

g hatch — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:21:07 +0000

my 2nd great grandfather is John Parry whom Patty was married to also in SLC any info on this marriage. I don’t think they had any children, and I wonder why they were married.

By: Becky Deleeuw

Becky Deleeuw — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:10:28 +0000

She is my great, great, great, great grandma! WAY COOL!

By: Leann

Leann — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:15:23 +0000

It is nice to see that someone is responding again to the Patty Bartlett Sessions blog. Interesting Linda that you would make your comment on the 14 of July. I just made a Nauvoo trip and was there from the 11-16th and was in the Nauvoo Land and record office on the afternoon of the 14th or 15th.creating a cd with probably the very information you mention. What fun! Leann

By: Linda Bennington

Linda Bennington — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:49:50 +0000

You can get the family’s copy of her diary and documents as to the family including the temple record of her endowment. David and Perrigrine with one his wives (Juliane Kilgore I think) from the land and title office at Nauvoo. It’s a ton of printing but has land records, the family copy of the journals, and geaneology.

Linda Bennington