The Pope and Cultural Violence

By: Steve H - September 18, 2006

I‘ll start this post by saying that I would be the first to admit that anyone who accuses Islam of being inherently violent is obviously looking to stir up contention. I would also say you should have a good reason before bringing up historical debates that are sensitive to a culture that you don’t understand. That said, I’m really not seeing the uproar against the Pope right now.

For those who don’t know the story, the pope has stirred up violence in the muslim world by referring to a 14th-century debate on Christianity and Islam in which the Byzantine emperor referrs to Islam as having spread it’s doctrine through war. He quotes the passage he quotes as an entre into a discussion of the place of theology in the university. It facilitates a discussion of the Helenization of the church and of reason and faith in relation to the nature of God.

Quite frankly, the place of Islamic history in the Pope’s remarks is incredibly small. If anything, the import of his remarks is that coersion is antithetical to inter-cultural understanding, that religious understanding is important to this understanding, and that Christians need to be the ones to build bridges to those of other faiths, without coersion and with a mix of reason and religious understanding. By inference, the argument would be that coersion is an ineffective way of dealing with the difficulties we face in understanding the muslim world.

And yet, all that some can see is that he quoted a text that they don’t agree with. It’s like the earlier difficulties with the cartoons with the Bin Laden type in a turbin marked Islam with a bomb in it. The idea to me was that terrorists are trying to hide in their vioence behind the cloak of a religion. It was about deception, rather than the nature of islam.

I am a bit perturbed that the media has presented the issue with the Pope in a way that implies that the he should satisfy his critics by apologizing. Such apologies (The Pope has not given one. He has merely noted that he regrets the reaction to his words.) are not only insincere, they eat at the heart, I believe, of intellectual and spiritual honesty. If public figures give in to public calls for apologies for “ugliness” that they were not actually party to, it ends up amounting to intellectual mob rule. The Pope is a very important leader in the Christian world, and for him to admit to cultural bigotry when none was intended or even unintentionally implied would be irresponsible.

It is especially difficult to me because it has become commonplace to inveigh about the inherent violence of Christianity, the countless atrocities committed in the name of Christianity, etc. No one bombs mosques when this happens. No one calls for apologies from those who defame Christianity.

Most profoundly, I fear that the result of such backlash will be that people will be afraid to be subtle in adressing the issues of interface between Christianity and Islam, that we will begin to speak only in platitudes about one of the most important instances of inter-cultural understanding of our day. We will never be able to go beyond saying “those people aren’t really muslims” or “Islam is a religion of peace.” We will be unable to examine the multi-faceted natures of both Islam and Christianity. Part of the reason that I think people got upset is that the passage the Pope quotes is much easier to understand precisely because it is philosophically less rigorous than the rest of his remarks. The speech is worth a read if just because it says something about who the new Pope is. Whayever you think of his argument (and, frankly, I would need to do a good bit more reading to follow him in points), he is impeccably schooled and quite thoughtful about the issues involved. It just may be, though, that the world isn’t ready for such complexity, as I think the remarks on the above link show. There isn’t a good soundbite in the entire piece, and we don’t know how to deal with that.

5 Comments

  1. And then there’s the irony that the Pope is threatened for death for suggesting (if he indeed did) that Islam is violent.

    Comment by Ronan — 9/18/2006 @ 5:25 am

  2. Well said, Steve. “Intellectual mob rule,” indeed. I also appreciate your pointing out the how cool it is to disparage Christianity in many circles. As you say, you can’t have complex discussions and the result is, reality is never explored.

    There are some lessons to be learned here for Mormons, as well. There is a natural complexity to our history and faith that is difficult to approach from soundbite theology.

    Comment by J. Stapley — 9/18/2006 @ 11:19 am

  3. There seems to be a misimpression by the liberal media that if “the West” would just say the right things and be nice enough to the Islamic world, they’d start abiding by the canons of a civilized society. How many many more reporters need to be kidnapped and murdered in the Middle East before they come to see how misguided that thinking is? Do facts even filter through the journalistic fog they seem to work in?

    The problem isn’t that the Pope suggested violence is the wrong way to further one’s religion. What does the media think, that the Pope’s thesis is wrong — that violence is acceptable — or that the Pope was just wrong to say it in public? Have we given Islam a global heckler’s veto over civilized discourse? Is the media really suggesting we should stop reporting the truth about Islamic atrocities? The media? Do these people even know what they’re supposed to be doing for a living?

    No, the problem is with those who are increasingly adopting violence and murder as their religious ideology. The Pope deserves praise, not criticism, for speaking boldly on this topic. We’re all Catholics today, Mr. Ratzinger.

    Comment by Dave — 9/18/2006 @ 5:42 pm

  4. I know this topic is getting a little old but I figured that I couldn’t pass sounding off on this issue.

    I am completely in agreeance with previous comments and the blog itself. I think that it is rather interesting that in response to the “apology” (I agree that it wasn’t really one) the pope was told that, “well if you were a logical person you would simply convert to Islam.”

    This is the root of my comment. Why is it that the only logicl choice for others is the one that we (personally) already espouse? And if others don’t accept that view then they must be wrong?

    I guess my view here is a little postmodern in accepting that multiple viewpoints can co-exist peacefully, but I think that is exactly what any religion should be promoting, peaceful coexistance. In many ways it doesn’t matter who is right or wrong, only that we are true to our own values and don’t force those values on others.

    I know, nothing new or insightful, but it sure makes me feel better.

    Comment by Alexander — 10/6/2006 @ 11:40 am

  5. Steve says taht “I‘ll start this post by saying that I would be the first to admit that anyone who accuses Islam of being inherently violent is obviously looking to stir up contention.”

    The above statement sounds like a standard way of not wanting to upsetting Muslims.
    But then is it true that those whose who think Islam is inherently violent are looking to stir up contenteion? I don’t think so. Violence is a big part of Islamic history, also a significant part of Koran. A person saying this may honestly believe it.

    Interfaith understanding is fine, but also needs to be honest.

    Comment by Danny Chin — 3/3/2007 @ 10:15 pm

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